To Dump or not to dump – that is the question?


Here’s a suggestion they can’t REFUSE!

They are such meanies at County Towers: on Tuesday they told us all – through the webcast – that they were keeping all of our Community Recycling Centres open. Yes, that’s right, the Recycling Centres had secured a reprieve. Cue a chorus of: Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

Now, we all know that a day is a long time in politics but they can’t have changed their minds that quickly – or can they?

Oh yes, they can! And it’s no good going into that old chestnut the pantomime routine: Oh no they can’t!

Because it really is a case of OH YES THEY CAN!!!

No less a personage than Mr Tim Oliver, Leader of Surrey County Council, has written a letter, alleged to be the Cabinet’s combined response to petitions concerning Community Recycling Centres – we guess that’s what they call ‘Collective Responsibility’. The only problem is, very soon, there’s not going to be any collection going on in Cranleigh!  Read the e-mail below.

According to Mr Oliver, the Council is faced with some very tough decisions about the way it delivers services to ensure it can continue to support its most vulnerable residents. Therefore, he claims, the Council has to look again at the operation of Surrey’s community recycling centres. No shit Sherlock!

Our followers over there in Cranleigh were really hacked off when their recycling centre went from being open seven days a week to only three and arising from that fly-tipping went up exponentially. Do Mr Oliver and his Cabinet care? Not so you’d notice.

Whilst he  acknowledged the concerns raised about fly-tipping, he claimed that from the Cabinet’s experience of recent changes to the service and anecdotal evidence from other local authorities who have already closed sites,


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If Mr Oliver and the Cabinet don’t have any experience of it and don’t expect it, it’s not going to happen!!!

Perhaps Mr Oliver and his Cabinet would like to explain to  Cranleigh residents  why, since their recycling centre went from being operational seven days a week to only three, landowners are finding more and more and more rubbish being dumped in beauty spots, on quiet country lanes and even, in some cases, their gateways and drives? A word to the wise, Mr Oliver, Just because it’s not happening on your commute up the A3 doesn’t mean to say it’s not happening on ours through the Surrey Hills!

Just where does fly-tipping have to occur for it to be on Mr Oliver’s radar? County Hall’s Car park?!

How would Mr Oliver and feel if they weren’t able to enter the Council’s premises because fly-tippers dumped their refuse, overnight, in the entrance or – now here’s a thought – in Mr Oliver’s reserved parking space? He claims they have listened carefully to the views expressed in the recent public consultation and taken them into consideration when developing a final plan.

Seriously? Does Mr Oliver really think the residents of Bagshot and Cranleigh (not to mention Dorking and Warlingham) are stupid? Did any of them vote for the permanent closure of their recycling centres from October 2019? We don’t think so. We entirely agree that it is necessary to set a sustainable budget to enable the Council to deliver a service to the residents of Surrey, we just disagree with its way of going about it.

 But, never fear, we’ve got a plan and, dare we say it, it’s a far better plan than Mr Oliver and his Cabinet’s because we, at the Waverley Web, have never been afraid to go where spiders fear to tread!

1. Reduce the salary of Joanna Killian, Chief Executive of Surrey County Council, from £220,000 per annum by half. For all our sakes, the PM is only earning £150,000 and, with the best will in the world, Ms Killian’s role can’t be anywhere near as stressful or demanding as Mrs May’s!

2. Slash the £1.7 million plus allowances that were paid to Surrey county councillors in 2017/18 – the fourth largest payout compared to 27 other county councils in England! Who the hell do these people think they are? The Fat Cats that got the cream, clearly! In fact, we’d go so far as to suggest they’re drowning in the Gold Top!

3. Instead of expecting the poor, unsuspecting Council Tax Payers of Surrey to plug the gaping hole in Surrey County Council’s gold plated Final Salary Pension scheme, via our Council Tax, we suggest the Council gets real and switches to the Defined Pension Contributions scheme that the rest of us pay into and axes the Final Salary scheme. Join the real world outside of the County Council Gold Plated Fish Bowl, why don’t you?

4. Restructure the top-heavy Surrey County Council, merge with one or two other County Councils and streamline, streamline, streamline.

5. And – stop making stupid investments in shops – like the £50m invested in Blightwell’s in Farnham! 

Mr Oliver claims changes are absolutely necessary to enable him and his Cabinet to set a sustainable budget. We don’t like to repeat ourselves but someone’s got to –  no shit Sherlock!!!

Never mind simply deferring the closure of Cranleigh, Dorking and Warlingham recycling centres – whilst noting, cynically, that the Council recognises this will be an unpopular choice with residents who use those sites – and recommending that the opening hours of recycling centres at Camberley, Caterham and Leatherhead are extended. Who the hell is going to schlep from Cranleigh to Camberley or Caterham – let alone Leatherhead? – with their recycling? If they’re going that far, Cranleigh residents might as well go to Kingston-upon-Thames and vote with their feet (or do we mean wheels?) by dumping their recycling on Mr Oliver and the Cabinet’s doorstep. Maybe, just maybe, when they’re at the sharp end of the problem they’ll do something constructive about it!

Here’s the e-mail sent to all the objectors.

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6 thoughts on “To Dump or not to dump – that is the question?

  1. I give Up! How can you inform SCC of Fly Tip sites – I cannot find anything on the website – But that could just be that I have lost the Will!!

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